Dec. 26, 2025

Jesus and the Forces of Death: Ritual Purity in the Gospels - Episode 159

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Jesus and the Forces of Death: Ritual Purity in the Gospels - Episode 159

This week, Carey continues the Purity Series by digging into Matthew Thiessen’s Jesus and the Forces of Death: The Gospels’ Portrayal of Ritual Impurity within First-Century Judaism—and uses it as a springboard to talk about atonement, purification, and why “apocalypse” is not just end-times hype.

A core thread: modern readers (and plenty of scholars) often read Jesus as if he’s against Jewish purity, when the Gospels actually portray him as rescuing people from the forces of ritual impurity—with a “contagious holiness” that overwhelms impurity at its source.

In this episode, you’ll hear about:

  • Why we misread the Gospels when we unconsciously import our modern conceptual world into a first-century purity framework (a frame-semantics problem)

  • The common scholarly false dichotomy: “Jewish holiness vs Jesus’ mercy,” and why it fails

  • A helpful map for thinking clearly: holy/profane (common) and pure/impure as distinct-but-related categories

  • Why “ritual impurity vs moral impurity” can be a useful discussion tool—but isn’t quite a clean biblical taxonomy

  • “Death-logic,” sacred space, and why childbirth (surprisingly) gets pulled into the conversation

  • How this connects to Genesis (childbirth, Eden as sacred space, exile from the presence, Sabbath, and the start of death)

  • Demonic impurity / unclean spirits: why Genesis 6/Nephilim and 1 Enoch matter, but don’t “solve” everything—and why you have to account for broader ancient exorcism

  • Apocalyptic vs prophetic genre: prophecy as covenant lawsuit and warning to rebels; apocalypse as hope for the faithful and God “breaking in”

  • A bridge into the atonement conversation: how “atonement” language can mean purification/purgation of sacred space, and how that differs from broader “at-one-ment” reconciliation talk

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00:00 - Thiessen, purity, atonement, apocalypse vs prophecy

04:37 - The big misread: “Jesus vs Jewish purity”

08:52 - Unclean spirits, sickness/wholeness, and why “unclean” is a category worth studying

12:37 - Jesus vs the forces of death (impurity, conflict, cross, resurrection)

13:28 - PSA debates and why Lamb of the Free is in this conversation

16:51 - “Atonement”: at-one-ment vs purification/purgation (word-logic matters)

19:12 - Invite: the Lamb of the Free study group on On This Rock

21:24 - Genesis Marks the Spot: death, child birth, sacred space, exile, Sabbath

25:25 - Genesis as “proto” + why Leviticus becomes essential

26:12 - Two binaries: holy/common and pure/impure

31:07 - Ritual vs moral impurity: helpful distinction, messy taxonomy

34:31 - “Death logic” (Milgrom), chaos/order, and why impurity matters

40:14 - Childbirth, blood, and why “death” gets linked to impurity

44:45 - Apocalypse: what it is (and isn’t) + why genre matters

54:58 - Eschatology reflections: prophecy vs apocalypse

59:19 - Demonic impurity beyond 1 Enoch: demons, bodies, exorcism, and kingdom signs